
ABBY T
Interviewed by Hashika
August 8, 2020
I feel like I’ve always been musical. Both of my parents really love music. We’re from Ghana, West Africa so I’ve been exposed to several different types of music, like afro-pop, hiplife, etc. And once we were in the States, we would listen to the radio a ton, especially all the types of pop you could listen to so of course I love Rihanna and Beyonce and that stemmed into liking more singer-songwriter-esque music such as Tori Kelly, Ed Sheeran. I went through a little guitar moment and I got really into songwriting and I love people like Jhene Aiko. It was like okay, that’s the first time I’m hearing a singer who writes like an MC. So I started going on Youtube and freestyling to beats and stuff and then delved into recording a little bit and thankfully found Clive at NYU. I met so many amazing people. I’m so grateful that New York is so small. You do one show and everyone’s friends and then people will hit you up asking to do things. People just create their own opportunities. I was doing that for a couple years.
My music personified would be someone who’s unafraid, down for whatever, playing with your character.
Hashika: If your music or sound had a personality, what would it be? What kind of person would it be?
Abby: I feel like it would be someone who has no filter. That doesn’t necessarily mean they don't think things through. But I feel like I really strive to say the things that people are thinking but are too scared to say because it’ll be received as being too needy or too overt, whatever it may be. I feel like it’s so valuable to be able to get in touch with not only your emotions but your emotional intelligence. I really love it when it comes through in a song I’m listening to because it makes me feel like the writer’s talking to me. That being said, my music personified would be someone who’s unafraid, down for whatever, playing with your character.
Hashika: What was it breaking into New York and the NYU music community? What were your experiences at Clive and which spaces do you think you’re taking up in this scene? What were you doing before you got here?
Abby: Clive has been so incredible for me. Of course I love the professors and the courses but I think it wouldn't be the same without the students who are in it because everyone’s doing exactly what we are striving to do. Everyone’s in the industry and you realize that when you’re in there. I remember my first show was with this collective called Tigris Records (@tigrisrecords). Shoutout Tigris, they’re amazing! That was my first show and from that one show people started reaching out. I would post little clips on my Instagram as well and it was just so random the opportunities I received. I got to open for Kari Faux (@karifaux), JPEGMAFIA (@jpegmafia) - all through students who knew someone or people I knew from home. I don’t think I would’ve had the same experience had I not been in New York. These people are so hungry and so open. I also feel like live shows are where I feel the most comfortable because you can just play on any character you want and people are really there for a show and to see something new. I think that that’s really where I strive to place emphasis, with live performance, or in studio things like vocal delivery.
Hashika: I think that you have really made a name for yourself. When I was telling everyone that I was hopping on a call with Abby T, I expected them to know who you were...and they did know. I know that people say NYU has no campus culture but I think especially with our experiences, we’ve seen that to not be as true.
Abby: Exactly! Especially with Clive and Music Business, there’s definitely a swirl. Connections!
Hashika: I just feel like there’s this symbiotic relationship where we’re looking for people to play shows, you guys are looking for gigs, etc.
Abby: Totally!
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Hashika: I want to talk about the V100 show. That was incredible seeing you open that show. How was that experience?
Abby: I was pooping my pants! Again that happened because I happened to know people who were planning that show. It’s crazy because during my freshman and sophomore years, I was on NYU Program Board (@nyupb) as a volunteer. I would run to get people whatever was on their rider. For V100, I remember running around buying pizza out of my own pocket for the artists and all this wild shit because budget!
Normally for students who attend NYU, you can only do one NYU show. So I kept thinking: “I hope I get to do V100. That would be sick. V100, manifest that.” And then a friend of mine reached out and said, we don’t know who we are going to have but would you want to play V100. And it was like, yes, of course. And then when they mentioned, we got Roddy (@roddyricch) and Chief Keef (@chieffkeeffsossa), I was like, are you kidding me?!
Chief Keef was fully my ringtone in middle school. Every song. That was so wild. It was so fun. For that show, I did a partial DJ set and a partial live set and I think that that worked really well.
Hashika: I was there. I’m telling you, it worked!
Abby: When you’re at a hip hop show, you don’t stay for the opener. You want to see the main act, let’s be real. Or you want to dance. And I was like, okay, DJing would be a good way to get people hooked and warmed up so that they’ll be nice when I sing my shit because nobody knows who the fuck I am. It was so electric. I was on cloud nine. I have a friend who makes gold teeth and she made a grill that said “sossa” on it so when I got to meet Chief Keef, I got to say “oh I have you on my teeth”! I was shaking, sweating, pooping, everything. But it was amazing!
Hashika: You manifested that shit! You made it happen!
Abby: I think that’s wild. A little side note, I was in Berlin when I think they first reached out. And at that time, my roommate and I had weirdly stumbled upon Chief Keef again and we were listening to his music again. And then we became obsessed with Roddy because everyone was at that time when The Box came out. We wanted to meet them. We wanted to be in the same room and just look at them, we didn’t even need to talk to them. And then, boom! That friend DJed for me too for my set! So I think our minds...something is going on here!
Hashika: That’s insane! You gotta keep doing that.
Hashika: That was an incredible night. Even just being in the crowd and thinking, holy shit these kids, Nadia (@bodegabruja), you...the energy. It was so beautiful and cool.
Abby: Yeah. It felt so communal. Also the budget...is very large.
Hashika: How was Berlin?
Abby: It was incredible. It was truly a life changing experience. Before going, I was considering opting out. I think that all my preconceived ideas of Berlin and Europe in general were so bland and not backed up by any actual facts or research. I also feel like living in the States, our contextualization of history, geography is so central to the US and then you touch on other things but it’s like you don’t delve into things. You talk about the Cold War, but what was even really going on? So I was like… I don’t want to go to Germany! There are no black people there! Like what are you talking about?
But then I thought it out and decided to go because it was going to be the only time I was going to be able to travel. I was young, I didn’t have too many ties anywhere and it was the best thing I could’ve done. It’s why I started DJing too because while we were there we took courses and they would give us prompts and tell us to make anything. Everyone DJs there so I thought I might as well try too. You could write a ten second song and they’re like it’s finished and it’s perfect. The way of life is so holistic there in a way that New York and the US lacks. Everything is so fast paced. If you want it, you get it now and you have your life planned and you graduate and find a job and you do that for the rest of your life. In Berlin, there’s so much breathing room and I was able to bring that back, that type of peace back.
Hashika: Yeah I hear you. Definitely when I think of Germany, or Europe in general, I think the people are racist.
Abby: And they are! Definitely everywhere I went, stares. People are so open with their stares and it’s so uncomfortable. Then again, I met some really amazing people so it’s a weird balance.
I feel like when people are there - I remember having a conversation with some of my friends - and thinking, this is kind of boring. What are we getting out of this? It hits you in retrospect. You’re like, oh shit, that was actually amazing. I can see why that was important now.

It fluctuates day to day but for now I’m really drilling down and releasing singles and seeing what sticks and trying to build an authentic online base. I want to match the same energy with them as my friends. “Let’s ride” type of vibe.
Hashika: So what do you see yourself doing next? When you’re performing these huge shows, do you feel any pressure to maintain and sustain that momentum?
Abby: After I did V100 and all that stuff, it was kind of like, you did that but what’s next? It was also the question of where can people find my music? I was like, shit that’s the whole reason I’m doing this. I haven’t recorded shit. What am I even doing? I felt so stumped. But now, I feel like with quarantine, it’s really allowed me to implement more structure into the way I make music and scheduling releases. So I really feel like a new type of music and perks with this pause that we have. It fluctuates day to day but for now I’m really drilling down and releasing singles and seeing what sticks and trying to build an authentic online base. I want to match the same energy with them as my friends. “Let’s ride” type of vibe.
Hashika: Your “Say So” cover by the way is a whole vibe.
Abby: Oh my god! Thank you! I’d love to play you some stuff after this.
Hashika: I can’t wait! I know you just mentioned that you’ve gotten into a sort of rhythm during quarantine. How do you keep yourself going and especially with social media, how have you had to shift to creating online content?
Abby: In the beginning, I wasn’t doing anything. I feel like that was really needed. It deadass felt like a pause. I was doing nothing and I didn’t feel guilty about it. That was really amazing because I feel like you need to give yourself that time to decompress. I know we always say that but we do have day to day responsibilities and things we need to attend to. I think that time doing nothing made me realize that I didn’t want that to become the norm. I was like, okay, we need to get going. I started doing sessions. Maybe 3 to 4 sessions a week with some friends of mine who are producers. And building a catalog, planning things out and having meetings about what’s next. It’s been important to put stuff in my calendar to look forward to..or not, if that’s your jam.
And also with online content, I was taking this one course that was an in person performance class. So the final was a performance, as one does. So we had to shift and do a livestream. We had to brainstorm ways to make things interesting and consider sound quality and all that stuff. I feel like quarantine has also shown me that I have the tools to do everything myself. And not every artist does to a certain extent. It feels like the music industry is really on this plane where everything has been leveled for a certain amount of time and everyone has seen certain artists who maybe before have had a huge creative team - we’re seeing the real side. Some inconsistencies. And now it’s amazing because there are new creative artists breaking through the mud because of this time.
Abby: Even at Global Citizen, I was like really! You’re going to really just sit at the piano? Come on! Let’s mix it up! I know you have access. Your label’s not going to send you anything? And if you’re going to go that route, then fully commit! Half in, half out. And all these celebrities being like, I’m at home, I’m with you. Like no, you don’t have to pretend we’re the same. That’s not even why we like you.
Hashika: I was watching the Chloe x Halle performance.
Abby: See that! Taste, okay?! They’re at home with spice and flavor. Ugh!
Hashika: I know! It was a legit performance. Beautiful! And there are other people like…
Abby: Push out the content! Where? Is? It?
Hashika: Let me know!
Abby: I’m waiting.
Hashika: You’re totally right though. I’ve seen people really get creative during this time and it’s so awesome. Anyways, who are you listening to right now?
Abby: Oh my gosh. There’s this one artist - she’s a friend of mine named Murelle (@muri.elle__) and ugh! So good. She’s just incredible. She just dropped a self produced mixtape. It’s 13 minutes and it’s an amazing listen. It’s so honest and beautiful and goes through all the modes of a relationship or situationship or whatever you wanna call it. She’s incredible. MICHELLE (@wearemichelle) just dropped a single called “Sunrise”. They’re so sick. I’ve just been trying to find as much new music as possible because these are all people that I know. Sifting through Discover Weekly or Suggested. What’s going on in the airways? What’s in the air? What are the girls listening to?
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Hashika: That’s so fun! Also, I’ve realized my Discover Weekly is literally NYU kids. Like, how are you on this? So cool. Going off of that, what have been some of your favourite projects or shows? Have you ever had a “I made it’ moment?
Abby: Favorite performance was definitely V100 because the energy was so electric. People were just having unadulterated fun. No one gave a fuck. Normally you’re worried about appearances. You’re at a show and you’re trying to look cute and all this stuff. Especially with DJing, I really love playing the shit that we grew up on that everyone knows and loves. There’s nothing like that nostalgic moment where you’re like what, I remember this! I remember where I was when I listened to this. That was definitely my favorite. And also, I would say that opening for Kari Faux was when I was like oh, this is incredible. They paid for my transport, all this other stuff and then paid me on top of that. I got to meet Kari and she was so sweet and nice. I was like, woah this is crazy. This is tangible.
I’m still waiting for that “I made it” moment. Hopefully in the next ten years. We have time. We have a plan now, so.
Hashika: I can’t believe you’re going into your senior year now.
Abby: I know. I was just moving into Lipton and now here we are.