
CHRISTINA XING
Interviewed by Nicole & Hashika
September 6, 2020
This week, Hashika and Nicole were so stoked to talk to the hilarious Christina Xing (she/her). Christina is an Alabama born but LA based award winning director. Her work spans both the narrative and branded space, having grabbed the attention of clients such as Tinder, Snapchat, Crayola and major music labels such as Terrible Records and Sony Music. At the age of 17, Christina achieved international recognition from her musical featurette 'How the Moon Fell From the Sky and No One Even Noticed'. She is a recent (pandemic) graduate of The Art Center College of Design with a B.F.A. in Directing and Film Production. Chrstina strives to make Cassavetes for people of color. She also strives to keep her nose clean and to eat more veggies.
Without further ado, we present you Christina Xing. ✨
Christina: Growing up in Alabama, it was really weird and super difficult because I obviously am not white but also I wasn’t Asian enough for the Asian people within my life so I was always trying to balance those in between worlds.
I turned to watching movies because when you’re watching movies it doesn’t matter what your ethnicity is or where you’re from. There’s no judgment based upon that. I love that. All of these experiences that I will never be - I could live that life. It was just all these different experiences that were not happening in my current life. I started making movies in junior high. I made a core group of friends with the theatre kids. That was when I really started flourishing because it was so collaborative. I also learned how to be a team player. I just fell in love with the craft. It was my first love.
Nicole: I love that. Wait so what was the very first film you made as a middle schooler and what was it about?
Christina: Oh my God! I’m cringing just thinking about it. I think it was this movie called “The Scream” or “The Horror” or some shit. It was a horror movie. It was NOT good! I don’t even remember the plot but the idea was that it was a horror movie that I had made starring myself with a camera tripod because I didn’t tell my friends that I was making movies because I was embarrassed. I was super into that era of Youtube too, Bo Burnham (@boburnham) and all those people. I love stand up stuff. That’s naturally how I felt making movies.
Nicole: Youtube, I love that. I was such a Youtube kid.
Christina: When I was applying to college, I always thought I had the grades. I always thought that I had the work and even the awards for it. And then I didn’t get into USC. I didn’t get into Chapman. When I didn’t get into any of these schools at all, I was like, maybe I’m not good enough. Maybe I’m one of those people that goes on American Idol and thinks they can sing. But totally cannot. I felt like shit. That’s so awkward. I started having that feeling and that belief. So I made this movie as sort of a “fuck you”. This is what I want to make, whether it goes well or not who cares?
I made it with all my best friends. It was scrappy as hell. It was a $3000 budget that we were shooting with. We obviously got more money after to distribute the film and everything. It was the scrappiest film ever.
And next thing I know, it gets picked up by Out Magazine (@outmagazine), The Gay Times (@gaytimes), Instinct (@instinctmagazine) and all these random ass outlets. Like what? People like this movie?
Then Adolescent Content (@adolescentcontent) discovered me. WHAT? This is absurd! Like, y’all found me through this? Instantly I clicked with them and how youth driven their content was because that was what I was passionate about. They asked me if I wanted to do commercials and at first I was like “You can’t make me do commercials.” But now, I love commercials. I love the art form.
Hashika: That’s so cool. How did you go about building your signature style? Who were some of the people that you have drawn inspiration from? Who are your favorite directors? What are projects that have inspired you?
Christina: That’s a really good question. I definitely think that growing up I was really inspired by Fellini, a director named Jacques Demy who is a French director and Cassavetes. This is a very strange combo because all three of those directors have very different styles. Two of them are very auteur based while the other is very naturalistic acting based. Through the auteur style directors, I realized there are really no rules in cinema. Of course, you have to learn all the rules to make something great. I totally believe that.
This is not like, fuck a story, fuck all of this shit! But after learning all the rules, you can break any way you want and having that freedom has really lifted my heart. I was really inspired by that freedom. I also like the naturalistic acting so in the musical a lot of the acting is improv but mixed with the script because I was so in love with Cassavetes’ work in the sense that he really just lets the actors play with what he had. I think that that has also been an influence with a lot of my other work too.
directed/edited/colored by christina xing
agency: adolescent content
producer: alli menscher
dp: aaron seller
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What are the differences between making a narrative, a music video, a commercial?
Christina: Y’all are so cool. Okay so I would say with narrative, there isn’t much money. It’s all passion based. Everyone who is on it is your friend or is doing it because they love the story or they love you or both. It’s that itch that you have where it’s like a personal story and you don't necessarily know what’s going to happen or if anyone’s even going to see it. But it’s not for that. It’s for yourself.
And then in terms of commercials, I love commercials because I think the best directors have come out of commercial. Please don’t shoot me for saying that. I’m sorry, but Spike Jones, Michel Gondry, all these amazing directors have come out of the commercial world. In commercials, it’s harder to tell a precise, clean story that makes you feel something and fit it into a 30 second punch. It taught me to learn how to trim the fat off my work.
For music videos, it’s just the coolest medium in the world. Music can tell stories, music can transport people’s experiences. Getting to be a part of that process as a director with the artist is a very unique and an extremely special experience.
Nicole: Has there been any project that you’ve worked on that has hit home and you’ve been the most proud of it in terms of any of those mediums?
Christina: I really love Wish You Were Gay, the music video that I did for Claud (@claud.mp3). That’s probably my favorite music video that I have ever worked on. I think it’s relatable for everyone, regardless of your sexual identity. It doesn’t matter. I think everyone can relate to thinking they have something with someone and just realizing that it’s all in your head. For me, that project really hit home because it was actually about someone.
Nicole: I think that also the moment of walking into a party...so relatable.
Hashika: I wanted to ask about that music video too. I was going to ask how you were able to put together the concepts of realism and optimism storylines side by side and fit it all into 3 minutes and a half? What was the process of coming up with ways to film it?
Christina: That’s a great example of how commercials have helped me learn to trim the fat off of things. Through that experience, I was able to really time things out and understand the pacing. I was really inspired by the scene in 500 Days of Summer where there were the expectations and reality and I thought they did it in a great way. For this song, I thought it would be clever to upkeep that concept and tell it in a manner that was from a different perspective. Also to tell the narrative of the other person too just because I thought that that would be fun to play with.
First thing that we did was that we had to make this thing that I like to call “the seconds breakdown”. There’s no formal name to it. It’s just something that I have made myself. It’s where you write down the lyrics by the seconds of the song and then you write what actions are happening for those second portions. On set, I have this guidebook. For example, let’s say from 1:00 to 1:06, Claud is going to drop toast. Then I would go to set and we’d play that portion and we would time out the action of that and make sure that it matches perfectly with the song. So we had to do that two times. We were shooting two movies basically.
Nicole: That’s insane! Well it turned out beautifully, oh my God! So both for music videos and commercials, what is the process when you are hired for something like that? Are you given an idea? Do you have to come up with an idea? Is it a collaboration? You said you were filming two movies at the same time with that music video but what does the timeline normally look like as a director?
Christina: That’s also a good question. So with music videos, the work flow is always kind of different. There are not really that many rules with music videos. They’ll usually send me a brief or something. Sometimes they’ll leave a note being like, “the artist really wants to do this music video and have it be in reverse so make sure your concept is something like that.” Or they’ll say something like, “we want to do it in reverse but we aren’t tied to it. We’re open to something else creatively.” They’ll leave a very small footnote for you. Sometimes they won’t leave anything at all. They just want you to go crazy. And then, basically you make a brief. It depends. Sometimes they ask you for a literal one day turnaround time. Sometimes they’ll give it to you over the weekend and send you the brief on Thursday. It really depends on their time but I’ve had like one day, three days, one week deadlines. So it’s all over the place.
Christina: What’s scary about music videos is that you don’t know how many directors are bidding on the job and you don’t have transparency because there aren’t that many set rules. There could be 50 directors bidding for the same thing.
Nicole: That’s insane. We talked to Jamie (@chickenfriedweiss) about the process of editing and how it can sometimes take months for something to come out. The fact that you have a day turnaround is insane for directing.
Christina: Yeah! And sometimes the artist will be like, “yeah, I don’t like the visual anymore.” That was all the time.
Nicole: Well the Victor Internet (@victorinternet) music video was super dope. Shooting on that mini DV camera, that was sick. What have been some of the hardest experiences or the strangest equipment that you have had to work with? Or any unique challenges you’ve faced with technology?
Christina: That was fun. That was really small. It was just me, Aaron (@aaronsellerdp) the DP and two talent and Victor. It was a very small scrappy crew. In terms of technology, I always feel like some shit always goes wrong. When you need something to work, it doesn’t work.
I’m trying to think about the most stupid thing I have ever done… Okay, this is a good example: for With You Were Gay - this is such a small thing - but we shot all day. We only had two days to shoot. It was getting to be 8 o’clock at night and it was obviously dark outside but we still had to shoot some day sequences.
I’m talking about the arcade scene. I was talking to my DP and saying we obviously don’t have the lights to make this look like daytime. There’s no way that we could realistically sell it. Then my other friend was like, why don’t we VFX the window? I was like, dog that’s going to look so stupid! Why would the window be daytime and everything else be fucking night time?
We were throwing ideas around and then - God bless his heart - fucking Shane (@shanebagwelldp) takes a fucking light and brings it outside to the window and he puts the lights on the window and literally leaves it there. Then we go back and look at the screen and it literally looks perfect. It looks like daytime. You probably can’t even tell. It’s the arcade scene and literally every sequence there.
Hashika: How has your experience been entering this space as an Asian American woman?
Christina: The hardest part is that every white institution is looking for that token person. Instead of tokenizing people, why don’t we just normalize that there are other colors making art? The first comment I usually get is “ oh you know, I’ve never actually met an Asian American female director. I know Lulu Wang (@thumbelulu) from the Farewell. You know her?” I get compared to her all the time. Don’t get me wrong, she’s amazing. But imagine if I walked into a space and told every white male director, “You know Steven Spielberg? He’s the only white director I know. You’re like him.” They would be like, you’re wack! What are you doing? I just want to be Christina Xing. Let me just be me, you know?
Nicole: That’s a beautiful answer. Working in the industry, working with Adolescent Content (@adolescentcontent), what is the biggest thing you have learned as a young creative? What kind of advice would you give to people that are trying to break into the industry?
Christina: I definitely have an answer to that but I also want to hear Hope and Naomi’s answers just because I also think they would have really great advice. They’ve seen a lot of this.
Hope: I think you go first. There’s so much but I think your perspective as a young person is going to be a lot different. Because I’m from a completely different generation and I think it’s changed so much and I’d love to hear what you have to say first and then I’ll pitch in.
Christina: That’s a great note. Let me think. There’s so much. There’s so fucking much.There’s this stigma against making commercials for young creatives. I was like this too. I was like, oh my God if I do commercial I'm selling out. I obviously understand that some people have personal things against capitalism. No judgment at all towards that. Everyone is allowed to feel that way. I was taught growing up and in film school that if you did commercials, you weren’t as good of a director. You were selling out and all of this stuff which is totally not the truth. I don’t think people talk about how so many of those A-list directors do commercials to pay for their life and their narrative and it’s made them better directors. I would tell anyone who’s a young director to not shy away from stuff just because your professor told you or whoever told you that you should focus on X, Y, Z. If you get to direct, you get to direct. If you love doing something, it’s fun no matter what form. It’s an honor and it’s fun. It’s always a challenge. I would say, be open to commercial! Make spec commercials, have fun with it. Money aside, it’s just a good form to really teach you how to cut the fat in your work.
Hope: I think that’s super good, I think the other thing to say is that you do have an opportunity to change the narrative in commercials. I think we see it a lot when you have young voices and diverse voices. Because commercials in some ways feel like they are dying, brands are a lot more willing and open to letting young people influence commercials. Like it's not the same way it was when I was going up where it was just like complete and total BS ya know where you just had to ‘fake the funk’ I think now it is a lot more openness to authenticity. It is a way to make money also that cannot be ignored. It is a way like Christina said, to learn to tell a story in 30 seconds, in 60 seconds, or whatever. I think it is also another medium where you can express yourself and communicate to your peers.
Christina: I totally agree with that.
Naomi: I don't have anything to add I think you hit it home!
“We think young people have important things to say. We think that they are the way of the future and there is no reason that a forty year old white man should be the person communicating for everyone.”
Nicole: A question for Naomi and Hope, what are you doing with Adolescent Content to elevate these young voices and why do you think it is important to get young creatives in the game?
Hope: Oh my god, the reason we started Adolescent was because we saw a real need for authenticity. We also saw a need for representation of ya know, minorities, women, members of the LBGTQ+ communities and we wanted to create a space that was representative of the world. And we continue to want to do that. We think young people have important things to say. We think that they are the way of the future and there is no reason that a forty year old white man should be the person communicating for everyone. Quite frankly, that's not a person who is connecting with me, not a person who is connecting with young people, who have incredible buying power and who also don't really give a shit about furthering belief systems and uh it isn't just about like they aren't just consumers right? They care about what brands are really saying and what brands stand for. We see so much and how they have really shown up for things like Black Lives Matter and shown up for the environment and so they are going to make brands better. And that is why they should be the ones leading the communication to young people. That is why they are the ones that brands should be listening to when they talk about how they are communicating. The old model just doesn't work anymore. And we have learned so much.
You know, when my business partner and I started this company years ago, I just wanted to do it because I thought it was interesting if I was being candid. I am tired of jaded directors who say let's do something fresh, let’s do something people are going to be enthusiastic about. But still it was also ya know we are gonna have a business and make money, we still needed to do that. But I have become so inspired by the young people we work with and the kind of integrity they have and how they challenge everything, even within our own team, how they challenge us about the brands that we take on and the clients that we decide to work with. And how, even though I have to make a decision as a business owner, who wants to have a business so we can still pay people, but have to make decisions as a human being, as a black woman, as a woman, as a citizen of the world, and so I think they just push us to be better and they just evolve communication so quickly they are on the forefront and so I think it's just exciting and important to be working with them. I feel like I didn't really answer the question.
Nicole: You definitely did!
Christina: Love you!
Naomi: I guess from my perspective it's just so cool to see such young creators, such diverse creators, and diverse voices to be able to tell their stories and have a place in the industry. Growing up I remember everyone talking about Steven Spielberg but I couldn’t name at the time one female director. So I think that Adolescent’s and all of the creators who are making this work are really changing the game and it's so fun and inspiring to see. Makes me wanna tear up!
Nicole: I would agree to that ever since starting this little instagram community, everyone is awesome! Everyone is so cool and so inspiring, holding each other accountable to do the right stuff and the good stuff and it's important for young people to be on the forefront right now because we are the ones making change.
Hope: I also just love the businesses, you said this little Instagram thing, like this is massive. This is awesome. There is such power with words and you have to have the mindset to know what you are doing is amazing, it's massive and it's HUGE. My husband sometimes makes fun of me because I always reach for the stars like this is going to reach BILLIONS of people, yada yada, thinking big. It is limitless what you can do and when I see all of the businesses popping up like yours being run by young people who don't see any road blocks - my 10 year old has a business and this is like her third freaking business. I am so for it! You know what I am saying! Young people see a space and they occupy it. Don't let anyone push you out of your space or tell you that, it can be a little space or as big as you want it to be.
Hashika: I think you are right. People have always discounted the young voice.




Nicole: Because we don't know enough yet! Why can't we! Going off of that, in quarantine, we have all been doing through it. How have you stayed motivated to keep creating? I know you worked on launching WLDKAT’s (@wldkat_skin) brand. What was your experience like working on a project from home virtually and your whole experience working with Adolescent Content putting that together.
Christina: I think it was cool because like during this time, one thing that has been really cool is like the creators that started out knowing how to shoot, how to direct, and how to edit their own stuff are like coming out as king because we have to go backwards in that technology whereas like everyone is trying to get their crews as small as possible with as little people possible and its a great time for a lot of creators that are good at several things that have been the jack of all trades. In terms of the WLDKAT brand launch, like yeah I was just like one of thirteen creators a part of it, it was so cool i think that adolescent actually put it all together and put together a great team of like homies and made something really beautiful. And it was really fun getting to work on that and getting to see the creativity that everyone had and just using resources at home.
Hashika: Just thinking about your other projects, for example ‘Have You Eaten Yet’.....
Christina: I tried a new funding method with ‘Have You Eaten Yet’ where I basically funded it through my instagram story, which actually worked out really well. Basically I made a poster and at first I was asking for like $500 or something like that and I honestly didnt think anyone would give me any money because I was just another kid asking for money to make their film, like who cares, there's bigger issues to support. Anyways I posted on my story and my friends started giving me money out of kindness. $500 in 3 hours became $800 and then within an hour became $1200. And it happened all in a day. By the end of it we had raised $1500 and it was crazy we got so much more than we expected.
Hashika: I mean that's the power of community.
Christina: And to answer yall’s question about the artists struggle, finding funding, especially for someone who is independent, I think the biggest thing is that people aren't willing to put their money somewhere where they don’t see return value. If this is a person's first art piece, no one wants to put their money towards it but if it were someone's final art piece, people fucking put down as much money as they can. I think that’s the biggest struggle, convincing people that your investment is going to be a good investment for the work. That’s the hardest thing I think.
Nicole: Oof, yeah. That’s a struggle but clearly you are doing it right. That’s so cool that you were able to pull funding that way. Hashika, take note - we need to follow her advice! You also mentioned that you are on set next week, is that right? What does a shoot like during corona?
Christina: I just recently signed with @Simian.la as a music video director which is super exciting! We're doing a music video right now that's going to be interesting because we’re going to a soundstage for one day and we're shooting a scene where there's a bunch of destruction. It’s going to be interesting because we want to limit our crew as small as possible. But at the same time, it’s like how do we do that while making this safe and making sure that no one gets coronavirus?
A lot of what people have been doing is doing one day testing right before set, just making sure that everyone is good to go. A lot of that too is wearing a mask on set and trying not to touch each other. We’re doing the elbow thing; elbow high fives. I know in the commercial world, a lot of my friends are using remote equipment now. You can change the shutter on a person’s phone while recording. A lot of people have been using that technology. It’s definitely been a weird world for sure.
Nicole: Yeah but certainly you get to adapting and everyone is figuring things out. That’s very exciting. Congratulations!
Hashika: SO cool! I’m excited!
Nicole: With a saw involved, of course.
Hashika: What would be your dream project? What crew do you want to work with, what company? What’s in your goals?
Christina: Hmm, dream project. I’ve wanted to make a feature for a minute now. I really want to make a feature. I feel like I’m ready for it. I’m ready for that commitment. The thing is that I’m not a good writer. That’s why I have so much respect for writers. I’m currently writing a feature with somebody. We’re cowriting just because I’m not a good writer. That would be my number one dream. I would give anything to make that feature.
Nicole: Is there anything on the horizon that you want us to brag about?
Christina: Yeah! I would say that ‘Have You Eaten Yet’ is probably going to come out soon, my short film. We’re finishing that up. And if you guys want to follow me on Instagram (@christinaxing), I post a lot of my friends’ work too. I think that’s something I didn’t really get to mention. One aspect of it is I direct the stuff but without my friends helping me make all my stuff, it would literally just not exist. They are probably more to brag about than I am. You can also see all their stuff on my posts. Thank you guys so much!